jock ellis
Jock Ellis played and recorded with Frank Zappa. He took part in the Royce Hall gigs and also in several other sessions at the record plant in L.A. around 1975-76.
discography
dave mason:
dave mason (1974, lp, usa, ??) feat. jock ellis |
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mark
almond: to the heart (1976, lp, usa, ??) feat. jock ellis |
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robbie
krieger: robbie krieger & friends (1977, lp, usa, ??) feat. jock ellis |
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frank
zappa: orchestral favorites
(27) (1979, lp, usa, discreet) |
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funzone: funzone ( ???? , lp, usa, ??) feat. jock ellis |
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frank zappa: the guitar world according to frank zappa (1987, mc, usa, ??) |
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h.m.a.
salsa-jazz orchestra: california salsa (1992, lp, usa, ??) feat. jock ellis |
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h.m.a.
salsa-jazz orchestra: california salsa II (1994, lp, usa, ??) feat. jock ellis |
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frank zappa: lδther
(1996, 3cd, usa, ryko) |
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steve
march: lucky (????, lp, usa, ??) feat. jock ellis |
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alan parker: band of angels (????, lp, usa, ??) feat. jock ellis |
random notes
Jock Ellis has worked with Gary Barone, Ernie Tack, Alan Parker, Wolfgang Melz, Steve March, Jim Gordon, Bob Glaub, Funzone, Sal Marquez, H.M.A. Salsa-Jazz Orchestra, Dave Mason, Mark-Almond, Robbie Krieger, and Frank Zappa.
From: Jock Ellis (jockster@pacbell.net)
I
feel somewhat jive doing this BUT.. I was involved (Trombone) with Frank on the
Royce Hall gigs (Orchestral Favorites and several other titles) and several
other sessions at the record plant in L.A. around 1975-76. This was a version of
the giant Hot Rats or (check spelling) Abnucleous (something) Orchestra,
As was the following group of trombones- Bruce Fowler, Jock Ellis, Dana
Hughes, Glenn Ferris, Don Waldrop.. We did Gregory Peccary , soft brown clouds
etc. I also recorded with Frank alone at the Record Plant. I don't know if that
stuff was ever released. He had me play the riff from "Satisfaction"
as loud as 100 elephants and was greatly amused.
Since
Frank was having shit with Herbie Cohen and Warners, these tunes were never put
out cohesively and I never got liner credits.
The
Band...O.K. Cutie Pam what a good Violist !! A one of a kind. As I remember, the
rhythm section included George Duke, Dave Parlato, Terry Bozzio and or Chester
Thompson. For some reason all I can remember of trumpets was Malcolm. I think
Mike Altschul, Ray Pizzi and Earle Dumler were there on reeds.
Royce
Hall is actually a fairly big concert hall with a HUGE much too deep stage grand
for opera. It is the main serious concert hall at UCLA. As L.A. goes it's pretty
old and was actually damaged pretty well by the Northridge Ride.
Some
of those tapes were actually recorded at the Record Plant. We recorded both Live
in concert at Royce and at the Plant. He
interspliced versions from both. The
Record plant on 3rd in L.A. had 1 big room.
And
I don't remember dates.
Fucking
Frank even stopped the band about 1 minute into a piece because he didn't like
the way it sounded in front of an audience of 2000. Now this was when he was trying to do some serious music. I
had brought a good friend of mine, John Rubinstein who is a very knowledgeable
concert goer and a fellow musician. He was offended as a listener. Some would
give it the old thumbs up for the FZ Fuck You, however he was just thinking of
it as a session and wanted another take.
Another
thing. Frank was terribly self effacing about his conducting. He didn't have any
of the usual movements but was quite easy to interpret (i have played lotza
classical). He hired this Bozo Michael Zearot who was a terrible conductor who
didn't get it. Frank had this mistaken impression that once he crossed over into
serious music to conduct it he needed a student of the style.
Mike Zearot didn't get any of the grooves in the music. The music was
horribly difficult and involved many time signature and extremely difficult and
complicated rhythms. As bad as any Schoenberg or Webern or Don Ellis for that
matter. That's why he got readers for his stuff. He took normal improvisations
in music and put the to pen. It's all written out very few solos on those
sessions. However it had grooves and unfortunately they aren't there from
Zearot.
My
recollection of the Orchestra is 4 piece string section. about 4 woodwind
players. 4 trombones & tuba. 3 trumpets. I think he had 2 french horns. 2
guitars (counting him). bass. drums. percussion. Maybe 2 or 3 more that's about
it. Sort of like a big band w/electrified string quartet.
One
last little tiddie. I had just had the release of my own bands record on First
Artists, "Funzone", it was an ill fated venture. I was in bed with a
little nublit and at about 5:30 a.m. the phone rang. It was Frank. "How
would you like to go on the road with me for work with a capital W ?" I
said " Oh shit well what errr who err.." he said " I don't know,
you are the first guy I've called and I'd like you in the band". I will
never forget this because I had to say "Oh shit Frank I'd really like to do
it but my album just came out , I've got a billboard on Sunset, I can't split
now, maybe another time" He said "Well this is now". 6 Months
later my record company had folded. It was at a time when FZ & I got along
famously and laughed alot. I always wonder how life might have changed.