elliot ingber

Elliot Ingber played lead guitar with The Mothers around 1965 - 1966, but left shortly thereafter to form the Fraternity Of Man with Richie Hayward and Martin Kibbee (who was the "Fred Martin" credited on some Little Feat songs). Fraternity Of Man had 2 lps both put out on cd by the edsel label.

Richie Hayward hooked with Lowell George and Roy Estrada (when the Mothers disbanded in '69) to form Little Feat, which is where the Feat / Ingber connection comes in. (see also the Factory). In the mid-seventies, Elliot Ingber played for a while with Captain Beefheart as well.

	the moondogs: moondog (195?, 7", usa, ??) - unconfirmed - might be a mix-up with the gamblers singles
	the moondogs: mooncat (195?, 7", usa, ??) - unconfirmed - might be a mix-up with the gamblers singles
	the gamblers: moon dawg / lsd-25 (1960, 7", usa, world pacific single #815)
	the gamblers: teen machine / tonky (1961, 7", usa, last chance 2) - feat. elliot ingber
	the hollywood gamblers: moon kat (1962, 7", usa, don 201) - feat. elliot ingber
	bruce johnston: the original surfer stomp (1962, 7", usa, donna 1374)
1	the mothers of invention: freak out! (1966, 2lp, usa, verve)
	fraternity of man: fraternity of man (1) (1968, lp, usa, abc records abc s 647) - feat.elliot ingber; incl. 'oh no i don't believe it' (frank zappa)
	michele: saturn rings (1969, lp, usa, ??) - feat. elliot ingber & lowell george
	fraternity of man: get it on! (2) (1969, lp, usa, ???) - feat.elliot ingber & lowell george
	canned heat: hallelujah (4) (1969, lp, usa, ) - feat.henry vestine, elliot ingber
6	the mothers of invention: mothermania (1969, lp, usa, verve)
	little feat: little feat (1971, lp, usa, warner bros. records) - feat.lowell george, roy estrada, ry cooder, elliot ingber
	shakey jake harris: the devil's harmonica (1972, lp, usa, ??) - feat. elliot inber
	captain beefheart: the spotlight kid (1972, lp, usa, reprise)
	captain beefheart and the magic band: bluejeans and moonbeams (9) (1974, lp, usa, mercury)
	little feat: waiting for columbus (1978, lp, usa, warner bros. records) - feat.lowell george, incl.'don't bogart that joint' (e.ingber, l.wagner)
	juicy groove: first taste (1978, picture disc, usa, payola records) - feat. elliot ingber
	the grandmothers: grandmothers (1) (1981, lp, ger, line records 6.24636 ap) - feat. various ex-moi
	the grandmothers: fan club talk lp (2) (1981, lp, us, panda 001)
	little feat: hoy-hoy ! (1981, lp, usa, ??) - feat.lowell george, elliot ingber, roy estrada, ry cooder
	the grandmothers: lookin' up granny's dress (3) (1982, lp, us, rhino records rnlp 804) - feat. various ex-moi; incl.zappa compositions
58	frank zappa: you can't do that on stage anymore vol.5 (1992, 2cd, usa, ryko)
	lowell george & the factory: lightning-rod man (1993, cd, fr, edsel records) - feat.frank zappa, elliot ingber, roy estrada, ian underwood
	the grandmothers: a mother of an anthology (1993, cd, us, one way records ow 28880) = compilation + extra tracks
	fraternity of man: x (3) (199?, cd5", usa, san francisco sounds sfs 09930 da) - feat.elliot & ira ingber; incl.'everybody's rockin'' (r.collins)
	various artists: cowabunga! the surf box (19??, cd, usa, rhino r2 72418) - incl. the gamblers: moon dawg
64	frank zappa: the lost episodes (1996, cd, usa, ryko)
68	frank zappa: mystery disc (1998, cd, usa, ryko)
	captain beefheart & his magic band: grow fins - rarities [1965-1982] (1999, 5cd-box, usa, revenant records revenant 210)
	little feat: hotcakes & outtakes: 30 years of little feat (2000, cd, ??) - feat.lowell george, roy estrada, elliot ingber, ry cooder
	elliot ingber: the the the the (2001, cd, jpn, ??)
	captain beefheart & his magic band: grow fins vol.III: grow fins (2001, 2lp, usa, xeric)
	captain beefheart: magnetic hands (2002, cd, uk, viper cd 011)
	captain beefheart: railroadism (2003, cd, uk, viper cd 015)
77	frank zappa: the mofo project/object (2006, 2cd, usa, zappa records)
78	frank zappa: the mofo project/object (2006, 4cd, usa, zappa records)
	captain beefheart and the magic band: live at bickershaw festival (2007, cd, uk, ozitcd9006)
	captain beefheart: nan true's hole tapes vol.2 (2011, cd, uk, ozit / dandelion records cd9009)
	don van vliet & the magic band: rough, raw and amazing (2015, 2lp, uk, ozit records) - "record store day 2015" release. limited edition on yellow vinyl

1971 sessions for Shakey Jake Harris' "The Devil's Harmonica" were September 1971, and included Ron Selico, John Mayall, and Elliot Ingber. (source: John Mayall Sessionography)

1972 on tour with captain beefheart & his magic band ("spotlight kid" tour): usa & europe

Elliot Ingber was in the Mothers at the time of "Freak Out" (oddly enough, in those days FZ did not consider himself good enough to be the lead guitarist in his own band!) but left shortly thereafter to form the Fraternity of Man with Richie Hayward and Martin Kibbee (who was the "Fred Martin" credited on some Little Feat songs).

The first LP had the original version of "Don't Bogart That Joint" (which became world famous when "Easy Rider" came out), as well as a version of "Oh No" before FZ would put it out himself on "Weasels Ripped My Flesh". Fraternity of Man had 2 LPs both put out on cd by the Edsel label. Other disc is called "Get It On".

Of course, Hayward hooked with Lowell George and Roy Estrada (when the Mothers disbanded in 69) to form Little Feat, which is where the Feat/Ingber connection comes in.

See the Factory page for more info on the Ingber/Lowell/Estrada/Kibbee/Hayward/Zappa connection.

Elliot's tenure with Beefheart was brief; he joined right after "Lick My Decals Off" and played most of the tour in support of the record but quit midway due to (supposedly) a distaste for life on the road. He was christened Winged Eel Fingerling and did record the next CB album "The Spotlight Kid" but didn't tour with him any further. I heard a rumor he is now a mailman.

Ingber rejoined Beefheart after the "Bongo Fury" tour - he subsequently toured with the Magic Band on the Fall - Winter 1975-76 tour. He supposedly suffered a nervous breakdown in the studio during a Magic Band recording session, though this is unconfirmed.

He was also involved with the Mallard project (2 albums) - which is the Magic band (sans captain) and with real (??) names - Both of their albums, "Mallard", and "In A Different Climate", are reissued on a single CD on the Virgin label. (And without their permission, I might add.)

There's also some Ingber-material on "looking up grannies dress" by the Grandmothers. That's right. And on the first Grandmothers album titled "The Grandmothers," (1980 Rhino Records) there are two songs by Elliot Ingber:
"A Bit Blue"                  "We Don't Feed No Livestock Here"
Elliot Ingber - guitar        Elliot Ingber - lead guitar
Johnny Dyre - harp            Ira Ingber - washboard
Larry Taylor - guitar         "Lil' Johnny" - guitar & vocal

The biography on the album cover says "Elliot Ingber lives in Hollywood and keeps himself in shape by riding a 15-speed racer and drinking lots of water. He's been writing his very different blues and rock." [note: circa 1980]

The second Grandmothers album titled "Looking Up Granny's Dress" (1982 Rhino Records) also has a song by Elliot Ingber on it
"Gingerwail"
Elliot Ingber - lead guitar
Ira Ingber - guitar & bass
Don U. Matic - drums
[recorded in ????]

Ingber is credited on the Canned Heat album Hallelujah, guitar I believe. There is a "credit map chart" on the record and Mr. Ingber's symbol is a joint...

Does anyone know about a group called Moondogs?? They excisted a short time about 1958-59. The members: Jett Powers, Derry Weaver, Elliot Ingberg, and Marshall Lieb.
The group recorded two "local hits" called Moondog (Powers/Weaver) and Mooncat (Taylor/Weaver)
All in text of the backcover of a Jett Powers album. Later I have learnd that another name was Gamblers, with the same members??

2.MOON DAWG! - The Gamblers [2:15] (Derry Weaver)
DERRY WEAVER: lead guitar   ELLIOT INGBAR: rhythm guitar
BRUCE JOHNSTON: piano   LARRY TAYLOR: bass
ROD SCHAFFER: drums   NIK VENET: dog howls
Produced by NIK VENET
World Pacific single #815 (1960).

From: StashWag@aol.com
I wrote the words and Elliot wrote the music on "Don't Bogart That Joint" Your history of how our group, "Fraternity of Man" was not correct. In fact, quite a few details about Elliot were incorrect.

From: Peter Vanlaarhoven
juicy groove's "first taste" has recently been reissued. the album was first released on payola records as a picture disc way back in 1978.
the reissue is a black vinyl album. this 'freak rock supergroup' features elliott ingber on guitar.

     from: mark e beard (markbeard3@juno.com)
hey nice web site man does my cousin e know about this site? you know him as winged el fingerling elliott ingber he is working on a aulbm hopefuly will be out soon, he and my cousin ira have always worked with me on being a songwriter and gutairist and im doing very well in country music on geenback records but back to elliot man i will never forget the first time he took me to the wiskey a go go and then when we went back to his pad and he picked up that gutair woooowie    can he ever make a guitair talk
     mark e beard

from: "wm.j.townsend" (racesale@gte.net)
elliot's cd "the4" has been released in japan. here's the link to a surprise webpage with some samples of the tunes. german release is expected soon and domestic release sometime.... -bill

from: ira ingber/camille ingber (muscletn@wgn.net)
elliot ingber has a new release in japan on dreamsville records, entitled the the the the. released on july 27th, it contains 14 songs, including 4 co-written with his brother, ira (who also co-produced many of the tracks with elliot).
look for this album to be released in other territories soon.