ronnie williams

Ronnie Williams introduced Frank Zappa to Paul Buff in 1960. His contributions can be found on a couple of Mothers / Zappa recordings.

 

 

Info from Steve Baptiste and Dwight Bement:
Ronnie Williams is front bottom with guitar & Dwight Bement is on sax on the right. Tommy Dendall on drums. The bass player's name is Juan 'J.B.' Barajas. Approx. 1962/63.

Info from Patrick Neve:
Ronnie Williams is acknowledged as the one who in 1960 introduced FZ to Paul Buff, which started a most productive period at pal studio. Ronnie played guitar for The Masters, who recorded the Zappa/Collins song "Breaktime" in '62. He, along with his brother Kenny Williams, and Jim Sherwood, engaged in some unusual pastimes which were eventually immortalized in the song "Let's make the water turn black", in 1968. It would not be until 1996 that the source recordings of these hobbies were released in 

It's also explained in explicit detail by Zappa in his autobiography. In the song "Let's make the water turn black" the lyrics mention Ronnie joining the army. That was '68.  I've since received an email from his cousin's son telling me that he did time in an arizona prison doing time for murder. I'm told he was defending his son in some way.
According to the liner notes in The Lost Episodes, there was no contact with Frank until 1975 when he showed up to a concert in Pomona. After requesting the "song about the  boogers" he was invited on stage. Does anyone out there have an audio artifact of this historic gem?

Bo Salisbury was an eyewitness:
"I remember it as plain as day. Frank looked down after the request was shouted out, laughed and said something like, "It's Ronnie Williams!" As I recall, he was in the center, about 6-8 rows back, and Frank invited him up on stage... Denny Walley was playing bottleneck most of the night on a Telecaster, took it off and handed it over to Ronnie. They played the song, the audience cheered, Ronnie gave the Telecaster back to Denny and the show moved forward. It was great." 

June 2011, Steve Ingram added:
Ronnie Williams currently lives in Arizona.

from the "Paul Buff presents the PAL and Original Sound studio archives, vol.3" liner notes by Greg Russo:
"Paul Buff and Ronnie Williams recorded “Toothpick Boogie” in the early fall of 1960, with Buff providing additional instrumentation to the basic track in 2007. That revised version, “Tropical Toothpick,” is on this volume. The original “Toothpick Boogie” will appear later in this series as well as on The Masters’ album."

 

discography

  the masters: t-bone / sunday blues
    (1962, 7", usa, emmy 1006)
 
  the masters: 16 tons / breaktime
   (1962, 7", usa, emmy 1008) the b-side was written by ronnie williams, paul buff & frank zappa
 
  the masters: under the earth / rolling blues
    (1962, 7", usa, emmy 1009) both tracks written by ronnie williams
 
3 the mothers of invention: we're only in it for the money
   (1967, lp, usa, verve)

4 frank zappa: lumpy gravy
   (1967, lp, usa, verve)

  the grandmothers: lookin' up granny's dress  (3)
    (1982, lp, us, rhino records  rnlp 804) - feat. various ex-moi; incl.zappa compositions

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  var.art.: 10c rare meat
   (1983, 12", usa, rhino)
 

64

frank zappa: the lost episodes
   (1996, cd, usa, ryko)
  frank zappa: the lost episodes (64)
   (1996, cd, usa, ryko)
 
 

various artists: paul buff presents the pal and original sound studio archives, vol.1
    (2010, download, -, crossfire publications) - feat.contributions by frank zappa

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various artists: paul buff presents the pal and original sound studio archives, vol.2
 
   (2010, download, -, crossfire publications) - feat.contributions by frank zappa

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various artists: paul buff presents the pal and original sound studio archives, vol.3
    (2010, download, -, crossfire publications) - feat.contributions by frank zappa

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various artists: paul buff presents the pal and original sound studio archives, vol.4
    (2010, download, -, crossfire publications) - feat.contributions by frank zappa

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  various artists: paul buff presents the pal and original sound studio archives, vol.5
    (2010, download, -, crossfire publications) - feat.contributions by frank zappa

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  the masters: singles & rarities
    (2010, download, -, crossfire publications) - feat.contributions by frank zappa

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  various artists: paul buff presents the pal and original sound studio archives: the collection
    (2011, flash-drive, usa, crossfire publications) = the complete 35 album series, with bonus liner notes on pdf and 56 extra tracks
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Info from Patrick Neve: 
I found some discographies which credit Ronnie Williams as an actor, a producer and arranger of soul music. I don't know if this is the same Ronny Williams.

info from tom welch:
The guitarist & brother of the late Kenny made no movies & did not produce any soul or gospel records. I followed Al Sarratt as drummer in the Do How Band with Ronnie & Kenny in 1973. I also think Ronnie went on stage @ Pomona College with Frank in 1974 not 1975. Love your page,keep it up!
Full name Ronald Lloyd Williams-son's name is Steve.
R.L.W. born~1940.


Info from Charles Ulrich:
Gray (Mother! The Frank Zappa Story, p. 157) suggests that this happened at an undisclosed location in early 1974. He quotes FZ as saying that he had just explained the song to the band a few days before. This wouldn't make much sense in reference to 4/11/75, when half of the band members had been playing the song for a whole year. Plus, of course, i have tapes of both 4/11/75 shows (at Pomona College in Claremont, not in the city of Pomona), and Ronnie does not sing.


info from Ron Cote, 2009/12:
I knew Ronnie and Kenny in 74' & 75'.

Ronnie and Joyce and all the kids lived in the green farm house between the railroad tracks in the grape fields of Cucamonga.
Joyce worked for the telephone company in Pomona.  I used to give her rides to work.
It was a strange time, everyone was into things they should not have been.
Kenny got out of jail and stayed with me for a while in Ontario.
Ronnie was a great guitar player and I was just learning.  He would show me things and explain them.
I had no clue what he was talking about for another 5 years.

It was the spring of 75' that Ronnie went on stage with Frank in Pomona. He did not sing he played guitar.  He told me he shouldn't have been up there, he was so out of practice, but Frank didn't care. There was a review in the local paper that talked about it, the critic did not like what was going on.

Ronnie's guitar and equipment got stolen around this time.  His telecaster had a design carved on the back. It was the nickname Frank gave him, Snail saw, Frank said it was because Ronnie was slow as a snail but he could buzz like a saw.
I never really knew him or Kenny to be singers.  Ronnie played guitar and Kenny was a piano player.
In 75' Kenny got violated on his probation and went back to jail.  I left California in the fall of 75 and came back on July 4, 1976.
I tried to locate them but they were gone from Cucamonga.


 


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