Mark Volman and Howard Kaylan joined Frank Zappa's Mothers Of Invention in 1970. They had been the leadsingers of The Turtles. They recorded and performed as The Mothers Of Invention until Zappa's accident at the Rainbow Theatre, December 1971.
In Zappa's band they were refered to as The Phlorescent Leech and Eddie (Mark Volman & Howard Kaylan). In the 1970's, they recorded a number of solo albums as "Flo & Eddie".
In 1987, they were asked to join Zappa's band, but for some reason or another, they only took part in some of the earlier rehearsals.
|1||the turtles: it ain't me baby
(1965, lp, ??, ??)
|2||the turtles: you baby (2)
(1966, lp, ??, ??)
|3||the turtles: happy together (3)
(1967, lp, ??, ??)
|4||the turtles: the turtles present the battle of the bands (4)
(1968, lp, ??, ??)
|5||the turtles: turtle soup (5)
(1969, lp, ??, ??)
|6||the turtles: wooden head (6)
(1970, lp, ??, ??)
|1970 t.rex- t.rex|
zappa: chunga's revenge
(1970, lp, usa, bizarre)
mothers: fillmore east, june
(1971, lp, usa, bizarre)
zappa: 200 motels
(1971, 2lp, usa, united artists)
|1971 t.rex- electric warrior|
mothers: just another band from
(1972, lp, usa, bizarre)
volman and howard kaylan:
the phlorescent leech & eddie
(1972, lp, usa, reprise records) - feat.don preston, jim pons & aynsley dunbar
|1972 various artists- burbank|
|1972 navasota- rootin'|
john & yoko /
plastic ono band: sometime in new york city
(1972, 2lp, uk, apple) - feat. zappa & mothers
|1972 t.rex- slider|
flo & eddie: flo
& eddie (2)
(1973, lp, usa, reprise records) - feat.jim pons & aynsley dunbar
|flo & eddie: you're a
(1973, 7"-promo, usa, reprise)
|1973 various artists- appetizers|
|1973 hoyt axton- life machine|
|1973 mcguinn, roger- peace on you|
| flo &
me make love to you (s/m)
(1974, 7"-promo, usa, columbia)
|1974 t.rex- light of love|
immoral and fattening (3)
(1975, lp, usa, cbs) - feat.ian underwood, aynsley dunbar, incl.'eddie are you kiddin' (frank zappa)
|flo & eddie: rebecca /
illegal, immoral & fattening
(1975, 7"-pro, usa, columbia)
|1975 david cassidy- higher they climb the harder they fall|
|1975 ray manzarek- the whole thing started with rock'n'roll|
|1975 michael quatro- in collaboration with the gods|
|1975 keith moon- two sides of the moon|
flo & eddie: moving targets
(1976, lp, uk, cbs) - feat.ian underwood
|flo & eddie: eleanore
(1976, 7"-pro, usa, columbia)
|1976 david cassidy- home is where the heart is|
|1976 stephen stills- illegal stills|
|1976 stills, stephen- illegal stills|
|1976 t.rex- futuristic dragon|
|chris hillman: slippin' away
(1976, lp, usa, asylum records) - feat. flo & eddie, jim gordon, jim fielder
|1977 tim moore- white shadows|
|1977 tim moore- white sun|
|1978 alice cooper- from the inside|
|1978 dmz- dmz (producer)|
|1978 sorry- oh kathy|
|1978 good rats- rats to riches|
|1979 california dreaming soundtrack|
|1979 roadmaster- roadmaster|
|1979 roger youdouris|
|1979 terry mace|
|1980 blondie- autoamerican|
|1980 alice cooper- flush the fashion|
|1980 airplane!- soundtrack album (not credited in movie)|
|1980 taylor, livingston- man's best friend|
|1980 bruce springsteen- the river|
|1980 hammond, albert- your world & my world|
|1980 the world of strawberry shortcake|
|1980 tonio k- amerika|
|1980 van wilks- bombay tears|
|1981 strawberry shortcake in big apple city|
|1981 al stewart- live/indian summer|
|1981 california usa- compilation|
|1981 crossfires- out of control|
|1981 the knack- round trip|
|5||flo & eddie: rock
steady with flo & eddie
(1981, lp, usa, epiphany records) - feat.albert wing, walt fowler
|1982 alice cooper- zipper catches skin|
|1982 checkpoint charlie- salz & phiffer|
|1982 livingston taylor|
|1982 turtles- turtles' greatest hits|
|1982 strawberry shortcake's pet parade|
|1982 psychedelic furs- forever now|
|1982 sammy hagar- full moon (fast times at ridgemont high track)|
|flo & eddie: the
history of flo & eddie and the turtles
(1983, 3lp, usa, rhino)
| flo &
eddie: checkpoint charlie
(1983, ep, usa, rhino records)
|1983 ava cherry|
|1983 burton cummings|
|1983 paul kantner- planet earth r'n'r orchestra|
|1983 espionage- espionage|
|1983 let's dance with strawberry shortcake|
|1983 introducing the care bears|
|1983 the care bears care for you|
|1983 adventures in care-a-lot|
|1983 the care bears christmas|
|1984 top secret! (soundtrack) (song was "skeet surfin usa")|
|1985 t.rex- t.rextasy: the best of t.rex, 197 (vocals (bckgr), handclapping)|
eddie: the best of flo &
eddie = compilation
(1986, lp, usa, rhino rnlp 70134)
| flo &
eddie: prince flo & jah
edwards = a reissue of "rock steady with flo & eddie"
(1987, lp, usa, rhino rnlp 70079)
|7||the turtles: chalon road (7)
(1987, lp, ??, ??)
|8||the turtles: shellshock (8)
(1987, lp, ??, ??)
|andy taylor: thunder
(1987, cd, usa, mca records dmcg 6018) - feat. patrick o'hearn, mark volman & howard kaylan
|51||frank zappa: you can't do that on
stage anymore vol.1
(1988, 2cd, usa, ryko)
|1988 adam bomb|
|1988 gavin friday- adam and eve|
|54||frank zappa: you can't do that on
stage anymore vol.3
(1989, 2cd, usa, ryko)
|1989 jefferson airplane- jefferson airplane|
|1989 gumby- gumby|
|1990 darlene love- paint another picture|
|frank zappa: freaks & motherfu****
(1991, cd, usa, rhino foo-eee records r2 70539)
|zappa / mothers: disconnected synapses
(1991, cd, usa, rhino foo-eee records r2 71017)
|zappa / mothers: tengo
na minchia tanta
(1991, cd, usa, rhino foo-eee records r2 71018)
|frank zappa: at the circus
(1991, cd, usa, rhino foo-eee records r2 71020)
|zappa / mothers: swiss cheese / fire !
(1991, 2cd, usa, rhino foo-eee records r2 71021)
|1991 bruce springsteen.."live"|
|9||the turtles: captured live (9)
(1992, cd, ??, ??)
|59||frank zappa: you can't do that on
stage anymore vol.6
(1992, 2cd, usa, ryko)
|60||frank zappa: playground psychotics
(1992, 2cd, usa, ryko)
|1992 ono, yoko- ono box|
|1992 gavin friday- each man kills the thing he loves|
|1992 the ramones- mondo bizarro|
|1993 best of louis bertignac|
|1993 bruce springsteen- greatest hits|
|1993 steely dan- citizen steely dan|
|1995 duran duran- thank you|
|1996 cowabunga! the surf box|
|1996 turtles- greatest hits [dj specialist]|
|1999 the johnny popstar luv explosion- lizzy the supermarket drag queen|
|tony palmer's film of frank zappa's 200 motels
(2010, dvd, uk, tony palmer)
|frank zappa & the mothers of
invention: carnegie hall
(2011, 4cd, usa, vaulternative records)
|frank zappa: finer
(2012, cd, usa, zappa records)
zappa & the mothers: mudshark live
(2015, cd, uk, keyhole)
zappa: vpro radio piknik, uddel, june 18, 1970 (remastered)
road tapes - tyrone guthrie theater, minneapolis, mn 5 july 1970
(2016, 2cd, usa, vaulternative records)
|the turtles: the complete original album collection
(2016, 6cd-box, ??, manifesto records)
|the turtles: all the singles
(2016, 2cd, ??, manifesto records)
Mark Volman: Born Apr 19,
1947 in Los Angeles, CA
From the Turtles website, via Charles Ulrich:
Mark Volman was born April 19, 1947. After a brief period living in Redondo Beach, his family moved nearby to Westchester.
I'd always been under the impression that Flo & Eddie & Frank might have continued indefinitely (well, you know what I mean) had Frank not been pushed off the Rainbow stage by irate British "fan" in 1971. Frank's subsequent lengthy recovery period resulting in no more band with Flo & Eddie, who were economically forced to seek other musical employment. The wheelchair-ridden Frank then moved into the Wazoo/Jawaka "big band" period and never looked back so-to-speak. Is this not likely?
From: Biffyshrew (email@example.com)
That's pretty much the way I understand things. There was no actual "breakup." Apparently Flo & Eddie were hurt that FZ never contacted them during his months off the road. They didn't know whether they were still in the Mothers or not. Even the appearance of _Waka/Jawaka_ in mid-1972 may not have sealed the issue, as it was billed as a Frank Zappa solo LP. In any event, it wasn't until some months later that Flo & Eddie unveiled their own "solo" debut. The real rift with Zappa came when F&E, in publicizing their album, apparently said some denigrating things about FZ. (I don't know exactly what they said; it may have been no more than the kind of harmless--if barbed--ribbing that F&E dished out to *everybody*.) This, unsurprisingly, infuriated FZ, who in turn took some potshots at F&E ("as jive as can be") in the press. But the acrimony didn't last, as F&E reunited with FZ for a one-shot performance in Detroit in 1976, and later almost became the centerpiece of the 1988 band...which would have been a *very* different animal had this panned out.
After leaving the
Mothers, they released at least 5 albums with the name Flo and Eddie.
1- The Phlorescent Leech and Eddie (1972)
2- Flo and Eddie (1973)
3- Illegal, Immoral and Fattening (1975)
4- Moving Targets (1976)
5- Rock Steady with Flo and Eddie (1981)
#4, Moving Targets, contained the song "Keep it Warm" which had quite a bit of airplay.
#5, Rock Steady, was re-released in 1987 by Rhino records as "Prince Flo & Jah Edward." This contains a reggae version of Happy Together!
Rhino also put out a compilation CD in 1987 called "The Best of Flo & Eddie," which contained tracks from the first 4 albums above, plus songs from the movies "Dirty Duck" and "Texas Detour." Flo and Eddie have done lots of soundtrack and backing vocal work. (They sing backup in the song "Bang a gong.")
#3, Illegal Immoral and Fattening, was recently released on CD.
Also a disk called "The Turtles featuring Flo and Eddie Captured Live" was released by Rhino in 1992. It contains the old Turtles hits like Happy Together, Elanoire (sp), and others... The white hair and beard look - - - different - but the voices are still the same.
Reunited the Turtles a year or two back and did a 20th or 25th
anniversary tour (or maybe even a 30th anniversary?).
Oops, I should have included Flo and Eddie in the news about being in the studio with Terry and Duran Duran. Apparently they did backing vocals. This is all verified information from Warren Cuccurullo himself.
Flo and Eddie were also the afternoon drive-time DJs at WXRK-FM
("K-Rock" -- Howard Stern's home station) in New York for a while,
about a year ago. Anybody know why they left the airwaves? I really don't
think they were cut out for that industry. Probably the stresses were too
much for them, and I don't expect they liked living in New York. Howard
thought they were idiots and used to poke fun at them a lot (lucky for them they
weren't in competition).
One snippet had two Flo & E impersonators talking about what washed up boring has-been rock stars from the 70's they could call today. One of them suggested the guitarist from Blodwyn Pig. I died laughing.
They have been doing The Bottom Line in NYC for the last umpteen years on
New Years. I saw them last year and two years before that as well. Excellent
They usually do a little segment on the Zappa years, but most of the show is Turtles material (which is nice, but after a while, it takes on an oldies show feel). They usually do the Sanzini Brothers. A bit slower than on the Illegal Immoral and Fattening album, but still worth while. Last year they did a long Nikki Hoi segment. I have a homebrew bootleg of the show from 90-91.
They did a Batman spoof in the beginning, and a Menudo spoof after the intermission.
Flo and Eddie have played at the Bottom Line in New York practically every New Year's Eve weekend that I can remember since the mid 70's. On one of these occasions in the late 70's, Frank Zappa showed up and played a few songs with them. Last year at the Bottom Line they did a large chunk of side one of We're only in it for the Money for "all the Zappa fans out there," which was odd because they didn't sing on that album. Most of the audience had no idea what was going on, but they did a great job.
And if you think about it, flow and eddy are two things that water does... pretty neat pun huh?
For you completists out there (I haven't seen this mentioned yet), Flo & Eddie did the prominent background vocals on Springsteen's "Hungry Heart".
They wrote/performed the music for the Care Bears. Luckily we don't get this in the UK, so no idea what it is/was. They also appeared on the 'Gumby' compo album (some sort of conservation doodad), along with Dweezil.
Also, I heard that they did the backing vocals for Marc Bolan's
"Bang a Gong".
Only 70% sure on this one. I think my source was _I'm with the band_. Regarding your uncertainty regarding Flo & Eddie's ties to Marc Bolan and T.Rex.
They did indeed do backing vocals on "Bang a Gong", and vocals on the first 3 T.Rex albums.
Yeah I know some of you folks here don't care much for the F & E era,
but for those of us who do, let me say that they did excellent versions tonight
(12/94) at the Bottom Line of the following:
Magic Fingers Mystery Roach
Lonesome Cowboy Burt The Air
Call Any Vegetable Eddie Are You Kidding
We caught the Dec 31st 1994 early Bottom Line show. They did a buncha Turtles, then announced it was "opera time" Proceeded to do some 200 motels (inc. Lonesome Cowboy Burt), Eddie are You Kidding and Call any Vegetable. Voices in fine form. Mark mentioned that Howard is now a restaurateur in Oregon; Howard said Mark is back in college! "I made the Dean's list!" crowed Mark. They mentioned the anniversary of the death of F.Z. and said "we love doin' this shit".
Old news but ... I saw F&E on a tour in April of '80 or '81 They did a great satire of Pink Floyd's The Wall. They called it "The Fence".
Flo & Eddie's stint on the New York airwaves... someone speculated that they were only on for a year because "they weren't cut out for that industry" or that "the stresses were too much for them"...
You couldn't be further off-base; Flo & Eddie PLANNED on only DJ-ing for that long. ("We're Only in it for the Money"?) If you've ever heard them, you know that they blow away 99% of the DJs out there! They are major talents in many fields, and they didn't want to waste the rest of their lives stuck on the radio, playing other people's music. So they took the money and gave New York a one-year gift. As far as the "stress", their activities run rings around all the DJs that I've known.
re: Marc Bolan
Flo & Eddie were friends of Marc. He dug the Turtles, and they dug T Rex. And sang on lots of his tracks.
They also sang the backups on "Love My Way" (Psychedelic Furs), "Johnny Angel/New Dance" (RadioMusic) and on the 3rd Knack album, among others.
Dr. Tracy Knight sez:
A longtime reader and fan of horror and other fantasy fiction, Howard Kaylan recently had his first short story published. The story, "Hi, Bob," appears in the anthology Phantoms of the Night, edited by Richard Gilliam and Martin H. Greenberg and published by DAW books.
Jan van Kemenade sez:
Flo & Eddie appear on the Bruce Springsteen 'Live 75-85' album. The track is called "Hungry heart". I doubt whether they were on stage, my guess is it was a studio overdub. But I'm not sure on that.
Please see Steely Dan box set "Citizen"
Demo of "Everyone's Gone To The Movies "F + E in fine form on b/v
From: mark spieller (firstname.lastname@example.org)
F&E sang back up on the studio version of "hungry heart" --Springsteen's first charting single and when the tour played The Meadowlands, Springsteen flew F&E out to sing back-up live for that one song.
F&E also did a syndicated radio show during the late 70's, early 80's called Flo & Eddie by the Fireside.
From: Patrick Neve
Sometime right around the time of Frank's death, Mark and his girlfriend were running a health food store in Burbank. Here is an excerpt from an interview of unknown origin:
Eddie: We're sitting in.... "Sprouting Wings".
Eddie: Tell us what it is.
Flo: "Sprouting Wings" is a.. health-food store that is um, run by me and my girlfriend here, in Los Angeles, uh in Burbank California. Uh, health food, vitamins, suppliments, and a 30-seat all-vegetarian cafe that serves uh, healthy food for people who are interested in purifying their bodies.
Interviewer: So, why don't you play "Would You Like A Snack" here?
Flo: (laughing) Yeah, this would be a good time for it.
Date: 17 Sep 1997 19:13:01 GMT
Over the labor day weekend here in Virginia Beach, Va. we had the American Music Festival where over 30 bands play on the beach. This year they had amongst them the "Turtles". I must say that it was great to see that they still have some Zappa In them. The chatter between songs reminded you of the Fillmore days in a haunting kind of way. They spoke of the last time they were here with Frank and how they ended up in the Virginia Beach jailhouse for obsenity charges. I remember the this show in 1974. They said there would be no Zappa performed today however the crowd cheered when they broke into a 5-6minute jam of "Road Ladies". I thought I had been Zapped through time. It was great.
From: Tony Zoccolillo
I saw Flo&Eddie in July 98 in Syracuse, NY. A benefit for Easter Seals, it was an outdoor show. They were great. The only Zappa they did was "Road Ladies". Unfortunately, thunderstorms were rolling in and the show was cut short. They look the same, a little older and grayer. Their bad was decent.
From: Ronald Raygunz
Mark and Howard will be on "Suddenly Susan" on Feb 8th,'99.
From: Paul Hinrichs (email@example.com)
Subject: Mark Volman: Master Of Music
Mark Volman is a founding member of the musical group THE TURTLES. They have had ten top-10 records and have sold over 40 million records worldwide, the most famous being "Happy Together." Mark has also sung and made records with Frank Zappa & the Mothers of Invention, John Lennon, Bruce Springsteen, The Ramones, T-Rex, and many others. He has written music for both film and television, including the award winning children's TV shows, Strawberry Shortcake, and the Care Bears.
Mark has been a radio on-air personality and has created radio syndication, as well as, creating commercials for both radio and TV. The Turtles continue to tour and perform over 60 concerts a year. Mark graduated Magna Cum Laude and was the Valedictorian from Loyola Marymount University and has been teaching there since 1997. He also teaches in the music department at Los Angeles Valley College. He will complete is Masters in Fine Arts in the spring of 1999.
Does anyone remember a show on PBS a long time ago with Flo and Eddie?
Is it available anywhere?
It was a one time show I think, not a series and was on in the late '70s. It started out with an old man and his old fat wife- Flo (in drag) and Eddie. They ate dinner and then were watching TV on a sofa and they both fell asleep. While they are asleep, our point of view changes and all we see is the TV. It looks like they were watching Don Kirshner or the Midnight Special. The bands on TV were all Flo and Eddie doing a bunch of impersonations. I'm pretty sure Led Zepplin was
one and it probably included George Harrison Jimi Hendrix Marc Bolan and they may have performed the beautiful and moving "Jumping Jack Flash between your legs" number. Although I don't remember it clearly, I think they did a pretty good job of looking like and acting like other big rock stars. They proved themselves as great impersonators of the sounds of other artists, but I think this was the first and maybe the only time on film (I don't know for sure) that they proved how good they were at mimicking other areas too.
Does anyone remember a show on PBS a long time ago with Flo and Eddie?
From: Ralph Wayvone
I DO remember that! F & E but their hair up Kabuki style and put on slit sunglasses and capes to make fun of KISS. I remember one line was "now this is a cheap little concert" with flashpots going off. They also lampooned Joni Mitchell with her "yodel"-like breaking voice routine (that now is Sara McGlaughlin's shtick)....very funny stuff.
From: Doug Grose (firstname.lastname@example.org)
The Turtles/Flo & Eddie's web site is located at:
There is also a complete discography, recent news and announcements, and current touring information.
I got a chance to see them perform as part of Dick Clark's Rock Review (or something like that) about 10 years ago at Great Adventure in NJ. One of the bands was The Turtles featuring Flo & Eddie. They were pretty hilarious as they were very sarcastic about singing their old 60's hits. The band came out and started playing a heavy metal tune and then Eddie says "Wait a minute ! (band stops) we don't play that sh*t, we play this sh*t !" and launched into Happy Together. They were clearly doing it for the money, but they goofed around through the whole 20 minute set.
1971 Frank Zappa's 200 Motels (as members of the Mothers of Invention) 1975 Dirty Duck 1980 Loose Shoes 1989 The True Story of 200 Motels
Turtles Member Aids Struggling Musicians
- Nashville, TN - Music industry veteran Mark Volman, founding member, vocalist
and manager of the legendary music group The Turtles featuring Flo &Eddie,
has recently launched a new website www.professorflo.com that is proving to be a
valuable tool for struggling and misguided musicians everywhere. Volman, who has
sold over 60 million records worldwide with The Turtles and Flo &Eddie and
has sung on hit records for such notable artists as John Lennon, Bruce
Springsteen, T. Rex, Blondie, Todd Rundgren, and Ozzy Osbourne , has survived in
the music business for over 40 years as a musical artist, on-air radio
personality, radio syndicator, record producer, writer and journalist for
national music magazines and network television.
every successful story, there are many more reflecting the outcomes of battered
lives left to fade away in the wake of misguided musical choices and
decisions... Many, I should say most artists, have no idea of a long-range plan
for survival, and the idea of having a plan for a career is so far away from
their reality that most will find themselves signing one bad deal after
another...over and over again. It is my goal to teach musicians and
entrepreneurs how not to be abused by the sharks in the industry," says
from the idea of helping educate musicians about the pitfalls of the music
industry, Mark Volman, also a former member of Frank Zappa's Mothers Of
Invention, created www.professorflo.com . Through his inspiring and motivational
lectures, workshops, seminars, courses and one-on-one consultations about the
music industry, he brings extensive first-hand information, a history rich in
support of independent music and a commitment to explain the complexities of an
industry challenged by constant change and fierce competition.
knows the 'chutes and ladders' of the music business better than Mark
Volman." - Joe Stefko (drummer with Meatloaf, Hot Tuna, Jim Steinman)
signed up to www.professorflo.com, for a nominal consultation fee, Mark Volman ,
who is currently a professor at Belmont University's Mike Curb School of
Entertainment and Music Business, will discuss such topics as: Contract
Negotiations, Creating a Career Plan, Band Partnerships, Costs Breakdowns and
Budgets, Songwriting, Choosing a Manager, Radio Airplay, Label Signing... From
contract advice to dealing with band members wives, just about any subject in
the music industry can be broached upon during a consultation with Mark.
more than 40 years of experience in all facets of the music and entertainment
industry, there isn't a more knowledgeable person when it comes to the way it
all works than Mark Volman . If I needed help or advice about a career move in
this business he'd be the first person I'd talk to. Plus he's cheaper than a
lawyer." - Jim Pons (songwriter, producer and former bass player with The
Leaves, The Turtles and Mothers Of Invention)
For more information go to: www.professorflo.com