carl orestes franzoni
Carl Franzoni was one the L.A. freaks in the early sixties. Frank Zappa wrote 'Hungry Freaks, Daddy' for him.
Carl Franzoni took part in some of the early recordings of the first Mothers Of Invention. In more recent years, John Trubee walked in to a Carl Franzoni art exhibition in Santa Rosa, and conducted an excellent interview.
picture on the right shows Vito Paulekas, Leslie J Michel
and Carl Franzoni.
|David Borboa made a documentary about Carl Franzoni,
entitled: "Freak Out! - The Carl O.
The picture on the right shows Carl Franzoni, and was sent in by
mothers of invention: freak
(1966, 2lp, usa, verve)
(1967, lp, usa, tower / capital) - soundtrack for the l.a. freak scene documentary
|kaosmik kitty: kitty
o'nine tales... or the nine lives of kaosmikitty - volume 2
(2004, cdr, usa, private release) = kaosmikitty interviewed by john trubee, cover-picture by carl franzoni
|77||frank zappa: the mofo project/object
(2006, 2cd, usa, zappa records)
|78||frank zappa: the mofo project/object
(2006, 4cd, usa, zappa records)
|"freak out! - the carl
o. franzoni movie" by david borboa
(unrleased, dvd, usa, david barboa)
|John Trubee did a couple of interviews with Carl Franzoni.
An edited version of these got published in Scram number 17.
of The Freaks: The Carl Franzoni Story"
(As Told To John Trubee by Carl Franzoni) - the july 2002 version
(As mailed to John Trubee by Efram Turchik)
of The Freaks: The Carl Franzoni Story"
(As Told To John Trubee by Carl Franzoni) - the february 2003 version
the sundazed interview (http://www.sundazed.com/scene/exclusives/franzoni_exclusive.html)
AKA: "Captain Fuck"Photo (c) 1999 Robert Carl Cohen
From: Frank Zappa (The Real FZ Book)
Next stop: Dallas. We flew into Love Field and found ourselves walking down a long hall, full of soldiers and sailors- stopped dead in their tracks, staring in utter disbelief. They didn't say anything. They didn't throw anything at us. They didn't shoot us like Easy Rider- they just stood there.
The high point of the performance was Carl Franzoni, our 'go-go boy.' He was wearing ballet tights, frugging violently. Carl has testicles which are bigger than a breadbox. Much bigger than a breadbox. The looks on the faces of the Baptist teens experiencing their grandeur is a treasured memory.
From: Randy Cech (Sam_Pharroh@email.msn.com)
Subject: David Crosby, Carl Franzoni and Vito: Freakout liner note connection revealed
In the 1990 Byrds box set which got from my Library there is a photograph with the caption "The Byrds with Carl Franzoni and "Some Weird Friends". "In the photograph David Crosby is wearing a cloak or a cape and doing a vampire pose. The other people in the photograph's attention seems to be split between Carl Franzoni and the photographer.
Later in the story "inside The Byrds" : Personal Reflections by Derek Taylor, original Byrds publicist and press agent.
"The Jefferson Airplane, and all the good San Francisco others, not least the Grateful Dead, were all endorsed by David Crosby, just as in L.A., Love, the Lovin' Spoonful, and the Mamas And Papas picked up similar encouragement from the Byrds. But the wellspring of sincere commercial group-weirdness was the Byrds and it was made manifest in Ciro's in the
spring of 1965. Audiences at first small at Ciro's grew to capacity and overflow. In time, anybody who was anybody was there again!
"Mr.. Tambourine Man" was released in May. (snip) There was no "rock press" then. (snip)There was absolutely no "underground." (snip)
Meantime, after more residencies at Ciro's, a kind of rolling "Byrds Meander Across America With Some Weird Friends" jaunt was put together. They did now have a following of some really way-out freaks, led by an older beat type called Vito and a memorable corkscrew-haired maybe-hipster named Carl Franzoni, reeking of Patchouli and usually very, very high.
There was also a gaggle of flower-children. I was frightened of the effect of all this on a totally unprepared and very jumpy Middle America, but the Byrds pooh-poohed my anxiety and went ahead with it. It was, of course, quite okay."
Ciro's was at 8433 Sunset, on the strip in Hollywood California.
From: Bossk (R) (firstname.lastname@example.org)
I found this web page so maybe all the film the Mothers did on this film is not lost.
From: Patrick Neve (email@example.com)
Also see: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~splat/Mondo_Hollywood.html
From: Craig Jones (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Footage of Vito & Carl can be seen in a LSD-is-evil-film from 1967 called, "LSD-25", in which Vito & Carl are seen in a short scene entering a shop & trying on some mod glasses...
From: computeruser (email@example.com
Subject: Re: You Are What You Eat (1968)
Animal Huxley, Vito & Carl Franzoni mostly. Some footage from some presumably Hollywood Strip club, Mothers on stage.
Music did seem to be FZ. Tiny Tim and David Crosby also appear in film, together with the names above. All were mentioned in the Freak Out liner notes. Apparently Tower records had a soundtrack album of this film.
From: Hustler Magazine, August 1974:
Hustler: Where'd you get those shoes?
Zappa: These are regular shoes that were painted by a crazy person.
Hustler: Anybody we know about?
Zappa: Yes, Carl Franzoni. Do you remember Carl? Carl Franzoni, believe it or not, is now the commissioner of parks and recreation in a town in California.
From: robert cohen (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Karl Franzoni (aka CAPTAIN FUCK) was a disciple of VITO THE MAGNIFICENT - KING OF THE HIPPIES, who introduced us in 1965. I don't recall Capt. Fuck ever saying much in my presence. I recall having heard that he had to
flee to Canada in the 1970s due to having become involved in some sort of drug deal. The only story I know about him is that, in addition to enhancing his manly appearance at Cantor's Delicatessen on Fairfax Avenue by wearing a rolled-up towel in his tights, he was selected one night by a lesbian who desperately needed to be initiated into heterosexual activities. The poor thing awoke a few days later to find herself not only pregnant, but also afflicted with syphilis, gonorrhea, and trenchmouth! Was this factually correct? Perhaps not, but it certainly mirrored his public image.
This is a true story--I'm not shitting you.
I was at the local Santa Rosa Junior College today--there was an open house, people milling about, tables with brochures on 'em etc. I went into an art lounge gallery to look at pictures--and I heard somebody introduce this older hippie type guy as 'Carl Franzoni' . I remembered his name from the FREAKOUT liner notes, I started yakking with him--and he was THE Carl
Fanzoni who inspired HUNGRY FREAKS, DADDY. Pretty weird. He was telling me old Mothers crap--he is an artist and lives right here in Santa Rosa. He seemed eager to talk and was flattered that a mere damn bystander would
recognize him as a reference in a 35 year old LP liner note. He gave me his number--mebbe I'll learn more about the freak days in LA. Do I sound like one of those idiots on the Zappa news group? 'Hungry Freaks, Daddy' was one of the anthems of my youth--so it was kinda nifty meeting the guy about whom the song was written. Next I gotta get David Cassidy's autograph. So what's gonna be yer sarcastic response?
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and there's more to be found on carl franzoni & the early l.a. freaks:
"When LOVE played the still hipper Whisky A Go-Go, further west along Sunset, Arthur Lee claims they 'started the whole hippy thing' in tandem with an in-crowd of freaks led by aging beatnik sculptor Vito Paulekas. It was Vito, Carl Franzoni, Sue, Beatle Bob, Bryan Maclean and me…people would come to Ben Frank's to hang out with us after we played shows."
(from "LOVE - Through the Keyhole" - MOJO Magazine)
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somewhere in a newsgroup, domenic said:
"... The original Beatle Bob, who went on the road with Vito Paulekas' 9 (?)-person dance troupe from the Byrds' Ciro's gigs, today works at a Tatoo Parlor on Melrose. The Byrds actually brought these people out on the road, because the 1965 freak scene in L.A. was so different than anything else anyone had seen before, that the Byrds felt it necassary to bring the Sunset Strip hardcore audience out on the road with them. Kim Fowley related to me that both the Byrds and Love did their early rehersals at Vito's clay sculpture studio, the location (303 Laurel) of which is cattycorner to a hip little diner on Beverly (which I've forgottent the name of, sorry.) Anyway, you can sit in this rennovated-by-alt.rock-kids '50s diner, and orb the old Clay Vito location across the street. Vito's troupe used to dance at all the Mothers of Invention gigs too, and can be seen dancing at Whisky a Go Go in THE COOL ONES. Vito also shows up in MONDO HOLLYWOOD in an interview segment, and his troupe are dancing to the Mothers '66 gig at the Shrine in YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT... you can even see them putting on their body paint at Clay Vito in the film, and one of the bodies is painted by Von Dutch, the Mad Martian Pinstriper who influenced Ed "Big Daddy" Roth. Too bad the Shrine footage has Electric Flag music dubbed over it. Calling Greg Shaw on this one: Does anyone out there know what the operating name of this dance troupe was? Vito cut a record as Vito & the Hands (thanks, Mr. Fowley), so that's not it. Anyways, one of the Vito troupe members had a nickname, "Johnny Fuck Fuck" that you never read in the liner notes or anthologies...
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from another source
Who Were They?-- Vito Paulekas, Rory Flynn, Emerald, Carl Franzoni, Suzy Creamcheese (Pamela Zarbica), Linda Bopp, Szou, Beatle Bob, Butchie, Karen Yum Yum.
recent poem by Carl Franzoni...
We used to go to the cemetery, Catherine and Dara and i, and take pictures and i did a small movie in the rain. Carr st. leads to cemetery, Catherine family are in the crept, on the sunny side. Just thinking of U. i happen to be very intuitive , about people i like, Is that as scary as the dead people. Remember my Indian astrology, is death and the wind. Now poem i wrote:
The year 2001 en-ron failing, pg&e stealing from california, martha stuart rip off, cushbush going in- to political toilet after 9 months in office, talaban inbush's pocket, this planned with the last president and gore the whore. who never contested the vote. and then wallstreet stealing from it's customers, that was what the hopi prediction is about, because they are stock customers too, several tribes and greenpeace protested and did one hour drumming in front of #7 building wallstreet, then were asked to come upstairs 37th. floor, and they protested and gave a prediction of total destruction of wall-street, this happened in april 2001. leman-brothers#7 building falling three weeks after u.s. marshals demolished their holly grounds august 2001 in mesa arizona . wall street had to fall, to hide everything. and to make sure, it was boomed from the inside with plastic.
2003 11 12
Carl Franzoni says:
Xavier Filliol from Paris, wants me to write about my life story, in 60s & up until now.
Are you interested, in knowing it was me that
whispered in Jane Fonda's ear about the War in Vietnam! We were all siting in
Canters Restaurant in Hollywood, Dennis Hopper was sitting there also .God have
you all forgotten about old carl franzoni
Remember it was Vito that had the Teen Dance that was busted by the local police , on the walls were placards and signs about stopping the WARinVietnam and the same Cop that busted the dance, tried to assassinate me in a house on Fairfax Blvd. in Hollywood in 1968;
the cop said to me as he hit me across my temple with his blue steele automatic pistol, 'You don't know who I am do you franzoni, You dirty fucking commie bastard!!! all the people in Hollywood heard what happened, and only Frank and Gail Zappa helped me get out of jail, it was a phony dope charge, the US government threw it out of court in early 1969 but i stayed underground in till 1/1/1970 but have been afraid to say any thing until resently being probed and filmed, By Xavier Filliol, a producer and Rock musician from Paris, France.who came this last March to film us in Hollywood We do not know the out come of the footage Xavier took, and we did do a shoot in Gail Z's house, at that time! Just write a book thats what they say to do.
if U are confused about this, what do do you think about us.
here in Santa Rosa, California, me, i just keep making small movies,About local Indians and another called Karl's Kitchen. # 5 will be shown on local TV Community Media Channel this next 11/13/2006 .
info from John Kaminski
Trailer for the up coming documentary on Carl O. Franzoni by David Borboa. www.DavidBorboa.com
David Borboa is currently seeking funding to complete this project. Go to his website and donate, or e-mail him suggestions at his website.
2008 01 21
info from Marco Kalnenek:
On Saturday, February 2, Esotouric, the eclectic collective whose offbeat bus tours expose LA's secret history, presents a special edition of "Where the Action Was" with guest stars Carl "King of the Freaks" Franzoni, and John "King of the Prank Callers" Trubee. The four-hour tour, co-hosted by pop critics Kim Cooper and Gene Sculatti, explores the musical history of Hollywood and the Sunset Strip through visits to celebrated nightclubs, recording studios, record label offices and other places of subcultural importance, and includes avant garde gelato from Scoops. On the bus Carl Franzoni will share personal tales of how his troupe danced across the US with the Byrds on their first tour and later with Frank Zappa & the Mothers of Invention, and answer your questions on the weird and wonderful world of freaky 1960s Los Angeles, and John Trubee will share hilarious tales from his time as an Enigma Records artist and Dr. Demento Show favorite for his single "Blind Man's Penis."
For more info, or to reserve your seat, please visit http://www.esotouri
February 2008, John Trubee and Carl Franzoni were guides at one of the "Los Angeles Tours" that is offered by Esotouric.
There's an article about it in the San Francisco Chronicle:
a new view of Los Angeles on these tours
John Flinn, Chronicle Staff Writer
Sunday, May 11, 2008
04:00 PDT Los Angeles -- Even those of us who don't share San Francisco's petty
and rather tiresome loathing of our large neighbor to the south have to admit
that Los Angeles can be a tough town to get a handle on.
so vast and, it seems, amorphic. Where do you start?
good way to bring it into focus, I've found, is by taking specialty tours. There
are dozens of them covering all manner of interests, from genteel walking tours
of Pasadena's rose gardens to the "Helter Skelter Tour of the Manson Murder
get a sampling on a recent visit, I signed up for three unusual tours:
homes Segway tour
thing about cruising through Beverly Hills on a Segway is that it neutralizes
the gawking factor. You're gawking at the ivied and colonnaded mansions, while
the owners - rich people, never genuine celebrities - come out to gawk at your
are those personal transportation thingies that look vaguely like lawnmowers.
They were supposed to revolutionize the world of human transport, but mostly
seem to have found a niche with shopping mall security guards.
here's the thing: They're fun to drive, or ride, or whatever it is you do on
them. Really fun. Extremely fun. Like, I-gotta-get-me-one-of-these fun.
first 60 seconds on one was unnerving, but I quickly learned to shift my weight
forward, backward and sideways to make them go faster, slow down and turn. It
felt almost like skiing.
guide and instructor, Axel, claimed to be the Segway trainer to the stars, the
guy who gets actors and musicians up to speed for movies and music videos.
owners of Segwow, the tour company, insisted I not name any of the celebrities
we saw or divulge any addresses. And that's fine because we didn't see any
celebrities, and I had my hands too full to write down addresses.
didn't matter. The tour was two joyous hours of zipping childishly around the
hills of Bel-Air and Beverly Hills on these oh-so-cool devices, past mansions
and starter castles and three-story hedges behind which various celebs and
moguls may or may not have resided.
company offers 18 Segway tours in the Los Angeles area, from Santa Monica to the
Hollywood sign, and I'm guessing one is every bit as fun as the next.
Dearly Departed Tragical History Tour
we have a disturbingly macabre sense of celebrity-worship these days, or is it
that Hollywood's stars have come up with endlessly bizarre and original ways to
shuffle off this mortal coil? Either way, the Dearly Departed Tragical History
Tour is a wickedly entertaining way to spend 3 1/2 hours.
Scott Michaels, a man with a deliciously twisted sense of humor, drove us in a
van past the spots where everyone from Lucille Ball to Dee Dee Ramone to Bela
Legosi to River Phoenix drew their last breaths, to the sites of the Menendez
and Manson family murders, and to the spots where Hugh Grant and Michael
"Kramer" Richards tried to commit career suicide.
of the things you learn is that for all its square mileage, Los Angeles really
is a small town. Practically everything that happens of note here happens where
something else of note once happened. For example:
Frawley - Fred Mertz on "I Love Lucy" - collapsed with a fatal heart
attack in 1966 in front of the Hollywood Boulevard building that now houses the
Scientology center. The Los Palmas Hotel, where Julia Roberts resides in
"Pretty Woman," is where the Black Dahlia, a.k.a. Elizabeth Short,
lived before the grisly and unsolved murder that still haunts the city 61 years
later. Janis Joplin and Bobby "I Fought the Law" Fuller died within
100 yards of each other, albeit four years apart. And when the Beverly
Hillbillies drove down that palm-lined boulevard during the opening theme of
their show, they passed right by the site where George Michael would one day be
arrested for "engaging in a lewd act" in a public restroom.
the Action Was
company, Esotouric, offers a wonderfully varied menu of some of the most offbeat
and well-researched tours in Los Angeles, many focused on literary footsteps and
roster includes, among others, "James Ellroy Digs L.A.," a tour hosted
by the author himself; "Main Street Vice," a "celebration of the
ribald, racy, raunchy old promenade where the better people simply did not
travel"; and "Visionary Hollywood," a look into some of the more,
um, unorthodox religions spawned in Tinseltown. Put it this way: Scientology
doesn't even make the list.
no fixed schedule; the tours are offered sporadically, usually on weekends. For
listings, check the firm's Web site (see "If You Go").
signed up for "Where the Action Was," a look at Los Angeles' rock
scene in the 1960s and early '70s. San Francisco likes to think it was the
vortex of the rock universe then, but it's hard to argue with a town where you
could pop into the Whisky a Go Go on any given night and catch the Byrds, the
Doors, Buffalo Springfield or Frank Zappa.
journalist Gene Sculatti was one of the guides, and one of the guests on my tour
was Carl Franzoni, part of a psychedelic dance troupe, known as "the
Freaks," that performed with the Byrds and Frank Zappa. The first song on
Zappa's "Freak Out!" album is dedicated to Franzoni.
of L.A.'s old venues, though, are gone, so mostly what you get on this tour are
stories - like the time Sonny Bono was laughed out of an Italian restaurant for
showing up in his bobcat-fur vest; he wrote "Laugh at Me" about the
incident. Or the time a drunken John Wayne heckled Zappa at a now-defunct club,
even going so far as to squash Zappa's Homburg hat. We drove past what was once
the site of a club known as Pandora's Box; the police response to a teenage riot
outside was the inspiration for Buffalo Springfield's "For What It's
Segway Tours, www.segwow.com/tours. (310) 358-5900. Tours are offered most
days, last around two hours and cost $59 to $89.
Departed Tours, www.dearlydepartedtours.com, (800) 979-3370. Hollywood
Tragical History Tour offered Wednesdays through Sundays; $35.
www.esotouric.com, (323) 223-2767. Schedule varies; check the Web site. Most
Flinn is executive editor of Travel. To comment, visit sfgate.com/travel.
2008 09 01
from John Trubee
an article from the Guardian about Esouteric's Tours of LA. Carl Franzoni and I
were featured guests on the Rock & Roll Hollywood Tour last February. Here's
a pic of Carl dancing in front of where Vito had his art studio at Beverly &
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we've all grown up seeing the tanned, supple bodies of Los Angeles
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the early 1960s, these modest art-deco storefronts were the starting
point for a social, musical, artistic and fashion revolution spearheaded
by Vito Paulekas, a 50-something sculptor and dancer. The community of
self-professed "freaks" that formed around Vito, his fashion
designer wife Szou and court jester Carl "Captain Fuck"
Franzoni, included a who's who of 60s youthquakers: The Byrds got their
start in the basement, Love's Bryan MacLean lived upstairs, and the
Fonda kids learned how to dance freak-style. Paulekas left town around
the time of the Manson killings, but today you can work out above the
former site of Szou's dress shop and Vito's basement art studio in
Harvey Easton's historic gymnasium, founded in 1938 and long a favourite
of Hollywood's athletic set. The site is one of the highlights of
Esotouric's Where the Action Was rock history tour - Carl Franzoni once
got on the bus with the visitors, and then proceeded to demonstrate
free-form dance moves on the sidewalk.
Easton Gym Hollywood, 8053 Beverly Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA 90048; +1
(323) 651 3636; eastongym.com
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